Submitted by Brer - March 4, 2007 at 4:21 pm -0500
@EOTD
Since it's a strong claim that's a reasonable Request. I refer you to the "Jamil Hussein" saga from the AP. First, one of the original stories, claiming that "rampaging militiamen burned and blew up four mosques" as well as the immolation of six civilians in a related attack:
Bloggers and at least one newspaper attempt to verify the claims...and find that there is ONE mosque that has been moderately damaged by fire, but all are standing and none have been either burned down or "blown up", while other newspapers find inconsistencies in the way the AP reported the "burned alive" story and find that while AP is trying to sell the story to western audiences, this shocking and dramatic incident somehow completely slipped the notice of everyone actually IN Iraq:
AP, in an astonishing real-world example of DoubleThink, simultaneously claims the original story is 100% accurate, and quietly changes the facts it reports in subsequent followup stories. This would also not be the first time the AP has defended unreliable sources. For another good example look up "Edward Daily" and "No Gun Ri", although that's a much older story. Also, you might want to familiarize yourself with Janet Cooke's Pulitzer Prize-winning story "Jimmy's World".
This post is getting long, so I'll move on to doctored photos and Reuters' deceptions in a bit.
Posted 08/21/08 at 04:15pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Hot damn, the Trolls must've taken some troll steroids...they are all over today.
Posted 08/21/08 at 03:03pm Talouin: @ZippyDSMlee: Yea, that game has a really high learning curve fun when you got the hang of it but the SE developers need a kick
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:45pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin:I quit FF11 3 months after I started, is a horrible game from top to bottom.
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:28pm Talouin: @SimonBob: I have never been happier I quit FFXI last month until now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:59pm ZippyDSMlee: Boyycotting only works when sheeple care, the masses have to want to care about subtleties, in general they do not thus why corporate gets as far as it does. However boycotting can raise a fuss and the bad PR might make them take note.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:20pm SimonBob: There's a full explanation of the FFXI PW fight up: http://rukenshin.livejournal.com/17133.html
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:16pm Talouin: @Quander, That fight is brand spanking new. People just don't know how to do it yet.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm AM: @GP: Boycott is unlikely to be effective due to how few people would be aware/participate. That said, I boycott EA over their "3 installs then buy another copy" copy protection, so I can't say it's NOT a good idea.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm GryphonOsiris: @Scribe, just read that. The reports are saying that is was a targeted killing. Odds are a bully, gang related or something.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:03pm SimonBob: I just glanced over some of the companies' game lists; turns out I was already boycotting three of them anyway.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:36pm gamepolitics: is a gamer boycott of atari, codemasters, topware and the other 2 UK firms who are extorting file-sharers a good idea?
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:19pm scribe999: Another school shooting...this time in Tennessee. Terrible news. And I'm sure there's much hyperbole to follow.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:10pm sortableturnip: hehehe ;)
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:09pm DarkTetsuya: @sortableturnip I'm totally putting what you said as my sig :P thanks!
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:02pm sortableturnip: OMG JT speaking in front of another BS group: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/09/04/
pardon-our-appearance.aspx?pg=2
&view=threaded
Posted 08/21/08 at 11:50am Neeneko: @Quander - I"m not all that familiar with FFXI, but maybe this mob just requires more gank? or there is a trick? larger group?
Posted 08/21/08 at 07:54am sortableturnip: The "smoking gun" is the Florida Bar dropping its insurance coverage from Nationwide
Posted 08/20/08 at 05:19pm jccalhoun: it would be interesting to hire a detective to investigae Jacko and find out his "smoking gun"
Since it's a strong claim that's a reasonable Request. I refer you to the "Jamil Hussein" saga from the AP. First, one of the original stories, claiming that "rampaging militiamen burned and blew up four mosques" as well as the immolation of six civilians in a related attack:
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2678640
MNF-Iraq actually stands up and calls them, more or less, liars, which is an unusually strong stance to take:
http://www.mnf-iraq.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7540&I...
Bloggers and at least one newspaper attempt to verify the claims...and find that there is ONE mosque that has been moderately damaged by fire, but all are standing and none have been either burned down or "blown up", while other newspapers find inconsistencies in the way the AP reported the "burned alive" story and find that while AP is trying to sell the story to western audiences, this shocking and dramatic incident somehow completely slipped the notice of everyone actually IN Iraq:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01212007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/destroye...
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2006/12/01/peering-through-a-foggy-war-...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/24/AR200611...
AP, in an astonishing real-world example of DoubleThink, simultaneously claims the original story is 100% accurate, and quietly changes the facts it reports in subsequent followup stories. This would also not be the first time the AP has defended unreliable sources. For another good example look up "Edward Daily" and "No Gun Ri", although that's a much older story. Also, you might want to familiarize yourself with Janet Cooke's Pulitzer Prize-winning story "Jimmy's World".
This post is getting long, so I'll move on to doctored photos and Reuters' deceptions in a bit.