Submitted by E. Zachary Knight - May 16, 2007 at 6:28 am -0500
@Stinking Kevin
Sorry it took so long to get back at you. Kingdom Hearts and DBZ Buduki 2 were most likely rated before expanding the ratings descriptors. They were an example of confusing content descriptors. To me and most people out there the content descriptors explain why a game receives a rating. If two different ratings have the same content descriptor, then it seems hypocritical or double standardish. If the two were rated today, KH would get a Fantasy Violence descriptor and DBZ would get maybe an Intense Violence descriptor.
The reason I think expanding the rating system beyond what you pointed out could be redundant is for certain types of violence. Say they decide to start listing 'Gang Violence', 'War Violence' and 'Gun Violence' GTA would most likely receive a 'Gang Violence' Descriptor, but would also need a 'Gun Violence' descriptor in order to appease the masses, even though gang violence would convey the use of guns. Same with CoD or other war games, would need both 'War Violence' and 'Gun Violence'. So that would be redundant but might appeal to the masses. It also gets into what the game is about, which is the back of the box's job. So you have three things telling the consumer about the use of guns in a game. Is that not the definition of redundancy? Using 'Gang Violence' or 'War Violence' could work as an addition, considering how many games of those genres are circulating. But 'Gun Violence is too broad to be of any use.
I do agree with you. The scale system that the ESRB works well. It is not the ESRB's job to describe the game to you. That is marketing's job.
Posted 08/21/08 at 08:32pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin: high learning curve my arse!The game is simpley unfun,period!
Posted 08/21/08 at 04:15pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Hot damn, the Trolls must've taken some troll steroids...they are all over today.
Posted 08/21/08 at 03:03pm Talouin: @ZippyDSMlee: Yea, that game has a really high learning curve fun when you got the hang of it but the SE developers need a kick
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:45pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin:I quit FF11 3 months after I started, is a horrible game from top to bottom.
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:28pm Talouin: @SimonBob: I have never been happier I quit FFXI last month until now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:59pm ZippyDSMlee: Boyycotting only works when sheeple care, the masses have to want to care about subtleties, in general they do not thus why corporate gets as far as it does. However boycotting can raise a fuss and the bad PR might make them take note.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:20pm SimonBob: There's a full explanation of the FFXI PW fight up: http://rukenshin.livejournal.com/17133.html
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:16pm Talouin: @Quander, That fight is brand spanking new. People just don't know how to do it yet.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm AM: @GP: Boycott is unlikely to be effective due to how few people would be aware/participate. That said, I boycott EA over their "3 installs then buy another copy" copy protection, so I can't say it's NOT a good idea.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm GryphonOsiris: @Scribe, just read that. The reports are saying that is was a targeted killing. Odds are a bully, gang related or something.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:03pm SimonBob: I just glanced over some of the companies' game lists; turns out I was already boycotting three of them anyway.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:36pm gamepolitics: is a gamer boycott of atari, codemasters, topware and the other 2 UK firms who are extorting file-sharers a good idea?
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:19pm scribe999: Another school shooting...this time in Tennessee. Terrible news. And I'm sure there's much hyperbole to follow.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:10pm sortableturnip: hehehe ;)
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:09pm DarkTetsuya: @sortableturnip I'm totally putting what you said as my sig :P thanks!
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:02pm sortableturnip: OMG JT speaking in front of another BS group: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/09/04/
pardon-our-appearance.aspx?pg=2
&view=threaded
Posted 08/21/08 at 11:50am Neeneko: @Quander - I"m not all that familiar with FFXI, but maybe this mob just requires more gank? or there is a trick? larger group?
Posted 08/21/08 at 07:54am sortableturnip: The "smoking gun" is the Florida Bar dropping its insurance coverage from Nationwide
Sorry it took so long to get back at you. Kingdom Hearts and DBZ Buduki 2 were most likely rated before expanding the ratings descriptors. They were an example of confusing content descriptors. To me and most people out there the content descriptors explain why a game receives a rating. If two different ratings have the same content descriptor, then it seems hypocritical or double standardish. If the two were rated today, KH would get a Fantasy Violence descriptor and DBZ would get maybe an Intense Violence descriptor.
The reason I think expanding the rating system beyond what you pointed out could be redundant is for certain types of violence. Say they decide to start listing 'Gang Violence', 'War Violence' and 'Gun Violence' GTA would most likely receive a 'Gang Violence' Descriptor, but would also need a 'Gun Violence' descriptor in order to appease the masses, even though gang violence would convey the use of guns. Same with CoD or other war games, would need both 'War Violence' and 'Gun Violence'. So that would be redundant but might appeal to the masses. It also gets into what the game is about, which is the back of the box's job. So you have three things telling the consumer about the use of guns in a game. Is that not the definition of redundancy? Using 'Gang Violence' or 'War Violence' could work as an addition, considering how many games of those genres are circulating. But 'Gun Violence is too broad to be of any use.
I do agree with you. The scale system that the ESRB works well. It is not the ESRB's job to describe the game to you. That is marketing's job.