Submitted by illspirit - May 19, 2007 at 3:43 pm -0500
GP:But wouldn’t most cop shootings take place under the stress of confronting a bad guy who is shooting back?
On top of that, cops aren't as well trained as most people think. On average, most regular officers only receive a day or two worth of live-fire training throughout the five or six weeks of police academy. After that, most officers are only required to go to the range once or twice a year to re-qualify; if at all. There are lots of officers (especially in quiet, suburban places) who have never fired their service weapon again after graduating from the academy..
Cho, on the other hand, allegedly frequented a range near the university during the two months prior to the attack. Considering that he bought the P22 first, and that its ammo is extremely cheap (under $15 for a box of 500), he could have fired thousands of practice rounds in those two months.
And WTF is this cover/concealment nonsense Grossman is rambling on about? Nobody there had a chance to return fire! Not the police, as they didn't enter the building until Cho offed himself. Not the (at least) two students in the building, who were trained and licensed by the Commonwealth of Virginia to carry concealed handguns, but were disarmed by campus policy. And not the two victims who the range master saw practicing at the same range as Cho, who were also disarmed by school policy. Honestly, it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. :/
Posted 08/21/08 at 08:32pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin: high learning curve my arse!The game is simpley unfun,period!
Posted 08/21/08 at 04:15pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Hot damn, the Trolls must've taken some troll steroids...they are all over today.
Posted 08/21/08 at 03:03pm Talouin: @ZippyDSMlee: Yea, that game has a really high learning curve fun when you got the hang of it but the SE developers need a kick
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:45pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin:I quit FF11 3 months after I started, is a horrible game from top to bottom.
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:28pm Talouin: @SimonBob: I have never been happier I quit FFXI last month until now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:59pm ZippyDSMlee: Boyycotting only works when sheeple care, the masses have to want to care about subtleties, in general they do not thus why corporate gets as far as it does. However boycotting can raise a fuss and the bad PR might make them take note.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:20pm SimonBob: There's a full explanation of the FFXI PW fight up: http://rukenshin.livejournal.com/17133.html
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:16pm Talouin: @Quander, That fight is brand spanking new. People just don't know how to do it yet.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm AM: @GP: Boycott is unlikely to be effective due to how few people would be aware/participate. That said, I boycott EA over their "3 installs then buy another copy" copy protection, so I can't say it's NOT a good idea.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm GryphonOsiris: @Scribe, just read that. The reports are saying that is was a targeted killing. Odds are a bully, gang related or something.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:03pm SimonBob: I just glanced over some of the companies' game lists; turns out I was already boycotting three of them anyway.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:36pm gamepolitics: is a gamer boycott of atari, codemasters, topware and the other 2 UK firms who are extorting file-sharers a good idea?
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:19pm scribe999: Another school shooting...this time in Tennessee. Terrible news. And I'm sure there's much hyperbole to follow.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:10pm sortableturnip: hehehe ;)
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:09pm DarkTetsuya: @sortableturnip I'm totally putting what you said as my sig :P thanks!
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:02pm sortableturnip: OMG JT speaking in front of another BS group: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/09/04/
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Posted 08/21/08 at 11:50am Neeneko: @Quander - I"m not all that familiar with FFXI, but maybe this mob just requires more gank? or there is a trick? larger group?
Posted 08/21/08 at 07:54am sortableturnip: The "smoking gun" is the Florida Bar dropping its insurance coverage from Nationwide
On top of that, cops aren't as well trained as most people think. On average, most regular officers only receive a day or two worth of live-fire training throughout the five or six weeks of police academy. After that, most officers are only required to go to the range once or twice a year to re-qualify; if at all. There are lots of officers (especially in quiet, suburban places) who have never fired their service weapon again after graduating from the academy..
Cho, on the other hand, allegedly frequented a range near the university during the two months prior to the attack. Considering that he bought the P22 first, and that its ammo is extremely cheap (under $15 for a box of 500), he could have fired thousands of practice rounds in those two months.
And WTF is this cover/concealment nonsense Grossman is rambling on about? Nobody there had a chance to return fire! Not the police, as they didn't enter the building until Cho offed himself. Not the (at least) two students in the building, who were trained and licensed by the Commonwealth of Virginia to carry concealed handguns, but were disarmed by campus policy. And not the two victims who the range master saw practicing at the same range as Cho, who were also disarmed by school policy. Honestly, it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. :/