Submitted by Diceman - May 28, 2007 at 12:41 pm -0500
The underlying argument is "pirates are teh evil"it"corporations pull capcom's at ever single outlet"they copyright anything and everything until all ideas are used up and to rub it in copyright laws are so outdated folks can make a weird kind of circle with a 4 directional lines and a triangle in the center and copyright that sign for 30+ years.If someone can tell me how this doesn't hurt creativity then please do tell.
Example:Chrono resurrection,bunch of kids make a very very good rehash of a snes classic with fmv and ps2 quality graphics but since squeenix owns the license to chrono trigger they sent them a cease and desist despite the fact that it was for personal use and demo purposes at the time(not all original artwork based ona 2d game not ripping sprites or anything).
The entire human race depends on one person copying another (we even learn how to do all the current things we do through imitation such as walking,talking,eating even how we go about doing math)the way things are currently going it wont be long until you can be sued for using a mod chip to play homebrew games for your xbox.
Take a good long look at most inventions over the past...i dunno...entire existence of humans and you will see most ideas come from copying other things be it human or made by nature.If the copying of one idea leads to a improvement of the original then why bother trying to stop it?or why do i have to pay Nintendo to make a game for their systems?I don't remember asking ford what tires i can and cannot put on my car did I?are we looking at a future where a "ch-ch-chenyism!"mod for halo 2-3 when you shoot a comrade in the face with the shotgun lead to a copyright infringement lawsuit?
@mickey the racoon yeah because we all know me downloading a copy of silk worm to play on my nes emulator is actually taking food out of the artists mouth(being as the game hasn't sold a copy from the company that made it in over a decade)?maybe pc piracy is a slight problem but console piracy is quite a different story altogether.
ps:I wonder if SE will come after me if i cosplay as robo from chrono trigger?the way things look it may be a resounding yes a few years from now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 08:32pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin: high learning curve my arse!The game is simpley unfun,period!
Posted 08/21/08 at 04:15pm GRIZZAM PRIME: Hot damn, the Trolls must've taken some troll steroids...they are all over today.
Posted 08/21/08 at 03:03pm Talouin: @ZippyDSMlee: Yea, that game has a really high learning curve fun when you got the hang of it but the SE developers need a kick
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:45pm ZippyDSMlee: Talouin:I quit FF11 3 months after I started, is a horrible game from top to bottom.
Posted 08/21/08 at 02:28pm Talouin: @SimonBob: I have never been happier I quit FFXI last month until now.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:59pm ZippyDSMlee: Boyycotting only works when sheeple care, the masses have to want to care about subtleties, in general they do not thus why corporate gets as far as it does. However boycotting can raise a fuss and the bad PR might make them take note.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:20pm SimonBob: There's a full explanation of the FFXI PW fight up: http://rukenshin.livejournal.com/17133.html
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:16pm Talouin: @Quander, That fight is brand spanking new. People just don't know how to do it yet.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm AM: @GP: Boycott is unlikely to be effective due to how few people would be aware/participate. That said, I boycott EA over their "3 installs then buy another copy" copy protection, so I can't say it's NOT a good idea.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:06pm GryphonOsiris: @Scribe, just read that. The reports are saying that is was a targeted killing. Odds are a bully, gang related or something.
Posted 08/21/08 at 01:03pm SimonBob: I just glanced over some of the companies' game lists; turns out I was already boycotting three of them anyway.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:53pm DarkTetsuya: @scribe999 yeah I heard about that, and I *thought* I saw a vulture circling the area...
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:36pm gamepolitics: is a gamer boycott of atari, codemasters, topware and the other 2 UK firms who are extorting file-sharers a good idea?
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:19pm scribe999: Another school shooting...this time in Tennessee. Terrible news. And I'm sure there's much hyperbole to follow.
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:10pm sortableturnip: hehehe ;)
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:09pm DarkTetsuya: @sortableturnip I'm totally putting what you said as my sig :P thanks!
Posted 08/21/08 at 12:02pm sortableturnip: OMG JT speaking in front of another BS group: http://jaablog.jaablaw.com/2007/09/04/
pardon-our-appearance.aspx?pg=2
&view=threaded
Posted 08/21/08 at 11:50am Neeneko: @Quander - I"m not all that familiar with FFXI, but maybe this mob just requires more gank? or there is a trick? larger group?
Posted 08/21/08 at 07:54am sortableturnip: The "smoking gun" is the Florida Bar dropping its insurance coverage from Nationwide
Example:Chrono resurrection,bunch of kids make a very very good rehash of a snes classic with fmv and ps2 quality graphics but since squeenix owns the license to chrono trigger they sent them a cease and desist despite the fact that it was for personal use and demo purposes at the time(not all original artwork based ona 2d game not ripping sprites or anything).
The entire human race depends on one person copying another (we even learn how to do all the current things we do through imitation such as walking,talking,eating even how we go about doing math)the way things are currently going it wont be long until you can be sued for using a mod chip to play homebrew games for your xbox.
Take a good long look at most inventions over the past...i dunno...entire existence of humans and you will see most ideas come from copying other things be it human or made by nature.If the copying of one idea leads to a improvement of the original then why bother trying to stop it?or why do i have to pay Nintendo to make a game for their systems?I don't remember asking ford what tires i can and cannot put on my car did I?are we looking at a future where a "ch-ch-chenyism!"mod for halo 2-3 when you shoot a comrade in the face with the shotgun lead to a copyright infringement lawsuit?
@mickey the racoon yeah because we all know me downloading a copy of silk worm to play on my nes emulator is actually taking food out of the artists mouth(being as the game hasn't sold a copy from the company that made it in over a decade)?maybe pc piracy is a slight problem but console piracy is quite a different story altogether.
ps:I wonder if SE will come after me if i cosplay as robo from chrono trigger?the way things look it may be a resounding yes a few years from now.