Submitted by Thad - May 30, 2007 at 5:19 pm -0500
Valthun: "I remember being able to sell alcohol when I was 16, I could drop a bottle onto a tray, however I could not actually pour the beer. I would have to be 18 to do that."

Uh, yeah, here's the thing, though: the law is unambiguous on selling alcohol to people under a certain age.

This bill is EXTREMELY ambiguous on what games can be sold to people of which age.

For starters, it doesn't specify "M-rated", it creates its own standard for what constitutes a game that can't be sold to minors, and is completely independent of ESRB ratings and content descriptions.

I already mentioned that you could qualify Lego Star Wars as a game containing dismemberment. What about The Sims? I'd say some of the things you can do in that game could EASILY fall under "physical torture of a human being".

All alcoholic beverages contain alcohol, and all beverages containing alcohol are alcoholic beverages.

Not all M-rated games contain "depraved violence" as defined in this bill, and not all games containing "depraved violence" as defined in this bill will be M-rated.

You don't need to be familiar with a specific alcoholic beverage to know who it is and isn't legal to sell it to. Under this bill as written, you DO need to be familiar with a specific video game to know who it is and isn't legal to sell it to.

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