Submitted by DragonBomber - June 25, 2007 at 2:12 pm -0500152.41.10.3
@E. Zachary Knight:
"I think this whole game addiction thing was less a move to help the “addicted” get insurance coverage and more a move toward government control of games. If the medical industry couls classify gaming as an adiction then the governement could have put similar restrictions on games as they do Alcohol and tobacco."
They could try, but some things aren't as easily regulated. Take sex for example, the desire of an abundance of which also is considered a disorder that some insurance companies will pay for treatment over. People go to meetings for this just like AA. People who are "afflicted" with this addiction sometimes manage to keep jobs they would have normally lost due to content loaded at work by anyone other than themselves. Don't get me wrong, the American government does a GREAT job regulating a natural function of our bodies. On a whole though, how effective are their efforts to curtail unwanted, excessive, or deviant behavior? Not very. The laws on the books aren't even used in most cases unless it suits a situation, such as keeping some citizens in a spotlight when they are seen as truly deviant and unwanted by the morally-jubilant community.
@Tom:
"Asking a heroin addict to stop doing heroin is COMPLETELY different then asking a gamer to put down the controller."
There's a show on cable Wednesday night I think you may want to watch that may shed some interesting light on this. I'll check when home to see what time and channel it is on (I've set the dvr to record it). From the commercial it led me to believe part of it would include doctors showing scans of people's brains as they played games. I have no idea of the slant the show is going to take, but I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that videogames may trigger similar pleasure areas of the brain that produce dopamine and so forth.
Is it possible to get hooked on games? Of course. We all know people with a lot of OTHER problems who fall into games as an escape or for fun. Can a game infect everyone? Doubt it. Food can produce that high enabling some people to eat continuously to remain feeling good, the side effect being the massive girth they build in the process. While we are a larger society now, most people are not even half as huge as severe food addicts get.
Hot peppers produce a rush for me that would be considered a high, although peppers are the hardest thing I touch besides a drink now and again. I also eat them in a far less quantity than would begin to do damage to my body. I am not addicted to peppers although I love them and enjoy them when I do partake. A lot of chemical dependencies as you say are horrible in the change they affect on the body. Most people can't just stop smoking. Nearly all of the people I know who game a LOT still are able to put down the controller for work and friends. I agree that equating videogames the same as drugs is extreme, however for some people (as with everything else we come into contact with) there may be a safe and unsafe quantity of consumption. Meaning some people need to be aware of this and stay away from games if that is what it takes.
I would imagine a videogame habit is only one of many potential habits that someone prone to addictive consumption could fall into, that larger issues underneath the surface need exploring. Until we have scientific efforts and results overshadowing the peanut gallery, this is just something else we will have to deal with as gamer. BTW, Youtube has a great skit from SNL from years ago about children who are arcade junkies. I will link that here as well if I saved it in my favorites. I think it fits perfectly into today's headlines and needs a revision.
Posted 07/06/08 at 01:57pm BlackIce: It might be just a bit too late now.
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:07pm Shadow Darkman Anti-Thesis of: Jack, Jack, Jack... When will you learn?
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:38am tallimar: hmm... youre right, im not getting the right mind frame... "YOU WILL LIKE FRIES WITH THAT!" how's that?
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:36am gameman9: Nah, he will just scare the customers.
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:35am tallimar: i think jack's new line may end up being "would you like fries with that?"
Posted 07/06/08 at 11:00am Adamas Draconis: His fave line. Always thought it should be "They've got me right where I want them."
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:43am gamepolitics: he's got 'em right where he wants 'em,LOL
Posted 07/06/08 at 10:30am Silencets: It was a great idea. Just another step in the overarcing master plan off JT...we little people wouldn't understand....
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:35am Jack Wessels: Yeah I knew that part. I'm just amazed at whatever thought process led him to think that was a good idea.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:33am gamepolitics: actually, he also sent similar material to the FL Supreme Court about 6 months before that
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:24am Jack Wessels: for him and would somehow get Kent in trouble.
Posted 07/06/08 at 08:23am Jack Wessels: @GP: Wow, I've skimmed that one before, but I never noticed that JT actually thought this was good news....
Posted 07/06/08 at 04:40am gamepolitics: eraser: see our original story on that:http://tinyurl.com/6nm9oe
Posted 07/06/08 at 12:21am infect999: because he's an idiot
Posted 07/05/08 at 11:41pm eraserheadthelynch: why did he send gay porn to the judges?
Posted 07/05/08 at 10:44pm Jack Wessels: @Silencets: Maybe it'll come to JT soon too, so he can finally complete that show cause order....
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:30pm Jose_Pedro_Ramirez: No one believed that the ice at the North Pole would ever melt, but...
Posted 07/05/08 at 04:28pm Haggard: Maybe he thought the judges would appreciate it?
Posted 07/05/08 at 03:27pm Silencets: I'm sure JT had a perfectly good reason sending gay porn....It'll come to me any day now...
Posted 07/05/08 at 02:54pm Grendal: once you send gay porn to judges, I'm comfortable calling you crazy
"I think this whole game addiction thing was less a move to help the “addicted” get insurance coverage and more a move toward government control of games. If the medical industry couls classify gaming as an adiction then the governement could have put similar restrictions on games as they do Alcohol and tobacco."
They could try, but some things aren't as easily regulated. Take sex for example, the desire of an abundance of which also is considered a disorder that some insurance companies will pay for treatment over. People go to meetings for this just like AA. People who are "afflicted" with this addiction sometimes manage to keep jobs they would have normally lost due to content loaded at work by anyone other than themselves. Don't get me wrong, the American government does a GREAT job regulating a natural function of our bodies. On a whole though, how effective are their efforts to curtail unwanted, excessive, or deviant behavior? Not very. The laws on the books aren't even used in most cases unless it suits a situation, such as keeping some citizens in a spotlight when they are seen as truly deviant and unwanted by the morally-jubilant community.
@Tom:
"Asking a heroin addict to stop doing heroin is COMPLETELY different then asking a gamer to put down the controller."
There's a show on cable Wednesday night I think you may want to watch that may shed some interesting light on this. I'll check when home to see what time and channel it is on (I've set the dvr to record it). From the commercial it led me to believe part of it would include doctors showing scans of people's brains as they played games. I have no idea of the slant the show is going to take, but I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility that videogames may trigger similar pleasure areas of the brain that produce dopamine and so forth.
Is it possible to get hooked on games? Of course. We all know people with a lot of OTHER problems who fall into games as an escape or for fun. Can a game infect everyone? Doubt it. Food can produce that high enabling some people to eat continuously to remain feeling good, the side effect being the massive girth they build in the process. While we are a larger society now, most people are not even half as huge as severe food addicts get.
Hot peppers produce a rush for me that would be considered a high, although peppers are the hardest thing I touch besides a drink now and again. I also eat them in a far less quantity than would begin to do damage to my body. I am not addicted to peppers although I love them and enjoy them when I do partake. A lot of chemical dependencies as you say are horrible in the change they affect on the body. Most people can't just stop smoking. Nearly all of the people I know who game a LOT still are able to put down the controller for work and friends. I agree that equating videogames the same as drugs is extreme, however for some people (as with everything else we come into contact with) there may be a safe and unsafe quantity of consumption. Meaning some people need to be aware of this and stay away from games if that is what it takes.
I would imagine a videogame habit is only one of many potential habits that someone prone to addictive consumption could fall into, that larger issues underneath the surface need exploring. Until we have scientific efforts and results overshadowing the peanut gallery, this is just something else we will have to deal with as gamer. BTW, Youtube has a great skit from SNL from years ago about children who are arcade junkies. I will link that here as well if I saved it in my favorites. I think it fits perfectly into today's headlines and needs a revision.