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Infophile(cont'd) title with the express purpose of offending non-game-devs? If offense was the goal, the article would have been different.07/31/2015 - 1:35pm
Big PermJust because I think your opinion is shit, doesn't mean I think you're shit.07/31/2015 - 1:35pm
InfophileIt's true that of course gamers will end up reading it. But it still makes it a stretch to assume they must have intended to offend them. Why would they make an article trying to convince those in the game industry of X and then randomly give it a...07/31/2015 - 1:35pm
Big PermWhile I think the opinion is shit, I do wish Leigh herself didn't catch so much vitriol. Hate the idea, not the person imo. That's why I generally try to be friendly to journos07/31/2015 - 1:34pm
Andrew EisenIndeed. I read the title and was like, "Huh? What? We're over? We're not who's audience?" Then I read the article and was like, "Oh! Okay, sure. Woefully narrow definition of 'gamer culture' and some unappealing wording aside, it's a fine opinion."07/31/2015 - 1:32pm
Big PermAnd that's the point. It was provocative. It existed to provoke07/31/2015 - 1:28pm
Big PermI think the obvious difference is this isn't a site that deals with the banking industry. While Gamasutra may be aimed at devs in particular, a provocative article being in the ecosystem of gaming virtually guarantees it's circulation among those people.07/31/2015 - 1:26pm
Infophile(cont'd) their audience of almost-entirely-non-bankers?07/31/2015 - 1:15pm
InfophileIt's frankly an implausible belief that the original title was meant to offend gamers. It appeared on Gamasutra, which targets the industry, not gamers. If you saw a title like "Bankers are dead" on this site, would you think they were trying to offend...07/31/2015 - 1:15pm
Infophile@Big Perm: I agree; calling out hypocrisy within your own ranks is a good thing07/31/2015 - 1:11pm
Big PermI definitely agree that yes, the titles alone were meant to provoke people who identify as gamers. It also worked07/31/2015 - 12:59pm
Infophile@Matt: I'm talking about people I've seen on this site arguing that the title alone justified the reaction to the article, that it was deliberately offensive. Not even a new YouTube video by a risen-from-the-dead Albert Einstein would change that.07/31/2015 - 12:52pm
Big PermI just didn't care for the wording. I don't think it should be changed or anything.07/31/2015 - 12:46pm
james_fudgeIf I am misunderstanding your point expand on it in the comments and i'll talk about it in there.07/31/2015 - 12:23pm
james_fudgeIt's clearly part of a broader internal fight against people like Sargon.07/31/2015 - 12:21pm
james_fudgeBig perm: fair point. On the other hand that's its origins and not saying that in some way would be a disservice to our readers07/31/2015 - 12:21pm
Andrew EisenMatt - What is the argument that Sargon supposedly debunked?07/31/2015 - 12:06pm
Big PermThat said, I don't think it's a shit article.07/31/2015 - 11:22am
Big PermNot really a fan of "one individual aligned with Gamer Gate attempted to shame a prominent figure within its own ranks". It should be encouraged that we call out hipocracy, and instead I feel that shines a negative light on such a thing.07/31/2015 - 11:21am
james_fudgeI'm curious what our GG-aligned readers think of our Necromancer story? Was it fair? Unfair?07/31/2015 - 11:11am
 

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