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Andrew EisenChanged their ethics policies? That's overselling it, don't you think?08/04/2015 - 1:35am
IronPatriotAndrew, before anti-science Baldwin coined "Gamergate", there was pre-existing harassment of women in gaming like Sarkeesian. Gamergate got applied to it to add an excuse, but all the "ethics" claims were lies.08/04/2015 - 1:34am
Andrew EisenGood general advice, I think: if you don't like someone's opinions to the point you find them upsetting, stop consuming their output.08/04/2015 - 1:33am
MattsworknameAndrew: Fair enough.08/04/2015 - 1:33am
Mattsworknameclaims were accurate08/04/2015 - 1:33am
MattsworknameIp: Again, you have no examples or indications as to what your refering to, so your argument is spurious at best. AS i said ,given that almost all the inital targets, save anita ,quin and such, have had the change there polices in response, I'd say the c08/04/2015 - 1:33am
Andrew EisenMatt - Most of the comments I've seen of his I thought were dumb. So... I don't read his Twitter.08/04/2015 - 1:33am
Andrew EisenBut yeah, a huge part of the what evolved into GamerGate was a focus on Zoe Quinn who had nothing to do with journalism or the ethics thereof.08/04/2015 - 1:31am
MattsworknameAndrew: Fair enough, i'll say say that I imagine most would find his actions in that regard vile and leave it at that, you can look into on your own if you like08/04/2015 - 1:31am
Andrew EisenIt's also a tough question to answer succinctly because GamerGate wasn't really created or founded. It evolved and adopted a name.08/04/2015 - 1:30am
IronPatriotAndrew, I am not talking about LATER claims by gamergaters. I am talking about what gamergate was FOUNDED to do.08/04/2015 - 1:29am
MattsworknameZippie: Ive had an idea for a story kicking around for years. just never got enough time to really put it together cohesively08/04/2015 - 1:28am
Andrew EisenI prefer to discuss specifics.08/04/2015 - 1:28am
ZippyDSMleeBefor I publish I plan on having a pro editor clean it up as best it can be without a total re write.08/04/2015 - 1:28am
Andrew EisenIP - It's more complicated than a hard yes or no. It took me half an hour to explain GamerGate to someone in person. Obviously, I don't have the space to do that here. So, rather than make sweeping generalizations (which I'm generally loathe to do)...08/04/2015 - 1:27am
Andrew EisenI have no idea who that is or what McIntosh said about him so I can't comment.08/04/2015 - 1:25am
IronPatriotAndrew, you are right. So since NONE of gamergate's founding targets had ethics breaches, those who claim gamergate was founded for "ethics" are wrong. Right?08/04/2015 - 1:25am
MattsworknameAndrw: normally i'd not have the energy to hate, but with him, one thing set me off. His actions regarding Chris hitchens following his death. I found them deplorable and an example of the most vile kind of ideaogical hate in exsistance08/04/2015 - 1:24am
ZippyDSMleeMattsworkname: I been chipping away at the 17k story for over 5-6 years LOL The 40K one 4 times that. But I only started to take heavy notes around 06 or so.08/04/2015 - 1:23am
MattsworknameAndrew: huh, il have to double check that. sorry for the mix up08/04/2015 - 1:23am
 

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